Friday, March 15, 2013
PFBHz leaves ROFL!
Multiple sources have confirmed that the most high profile corp within the ROFL alliance has jumped ship. The timing seems odd as PFBHz just completed dominating the New Eden Live Trials. While we are still collecting details and reaching out to those involved, one source did provide us with an alliance communication detailing the split, which we will print below. Other sources within ROFL seemed to suggest that PFBHz may have been voted out. Could a merger between The Imperfects and PFBHz be on the horizon? Recent speculation has touched on this subject multiple times, and the only barrier in the past was the fact that both groups already had alliances. Veteran EVE corporations must be licking their lips at the prospect of a for hire group with the best mercs in the galaxy to do their bidding. Is this the first axe to fall for ROFL? Are other corporations ready to flee as well? Stay tuned to our blog and Twitter for updates as we continue to follow this story.
Mitauchi Statement
It saddens me to have to announce the PFBHz has officially been removed from RISE of LEGION alliance. Their has been a build up of continued challenges between the various members of leadership and PFBHz since their foundation as well as before with their parent organizations. Even though we as a team tried to address these challenges head on, we have been unable to meet any compromise that allows our two cultures of game play to co-exist within the same community. So as of 10:30 PM CST last night I, after consulting the rest of the Founders Board, made the final decision to accept Jlongshot's offer to leave ROFL Alliance in a respectful fashion.
Due to the fact this decision was executed so quickly and without prior notice in accordance with our security protocols we have given PFBHz temporary blues in order for them to move their assets and provide their pilots with some sense of security to allow their transition to go more smoothly. We still have many good friends within their group so I ask that you respect our former brothers in this difficult time. We may of had challenges within the leadership which unfortunately lead to this end, but many have forged friendships within the membership of PFBHz which will hopefully stand through these transitions.
So what now?
We continue to move forward as a unified team. Under our current leadership structure our challenges in the past have remained hidden from the rest of the alliance leadership, not allowing the transparency and involvement that many of our member corps deserve. To remedy this we will be moving all boardroom responsibilities and duties to the full leadership council. The board will transition into my personal advisory council at this stage and will remain so for the life of their each of their corporations. These corporations had the foresight to create ROFL Alliance and are in agreement with this transition in order to better include our brother corps in the decision making process. Details about these changes will be finalized in this evenings final Boardroom meeting. I opening invite all leadership (redskulls) to take part in this meeting @ 02:00 GMT.
I would like to thank all those in leadership as well as the members that have offered your support during these past 24 hours. I have asked of each of you for your loyalty, your dedication and commitment to RISE of LEGION and your individual corporations so that we may foster a team unmatched within the New Eden Universe. A team not built on elitist ideals or natural selection but one that reaches out a hand to a fallen brother to get him up and push him forward on the field of battle. This team that does not put down or exploit its own brothers for the gain of himself or his corp's interests but rather dedicates his time, energy and wealth to the good of the whole. ROFL is a brotherhood, a family and I will continue to protect this family. We are legion, and we will continue to rise together.
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knew this wouldnt hold long. for the record, probably need to happen.
ReplyDeleteYou consolers never fail to make me laugh. Cant play nice? Game still hasnt released yet and you already falling apart? And you wonder why we dont take you serious.
DeleteYa, because Eve corps and alliances don't fall apart all the time. idiot.
Deletecorrection! founding corps decided it was best for them to leave.
ReplyDeletecorrection, Mit and two lackies decided it was best for them to leave
DeleteCorrection. *All* the leadership voted for them to leave.
DeleteNot true. I'm a leader and was not able to vote. I dont like much of what went down here. That said, to anyone with eyes the situation has obviously reached a point of no return.
Deleteuh oh!!!! ROFL falling apart!
ReplyDeleteYes sir! Come join the fail cascade and apply today! :)
Deletebow before The Mitauchi you peons!!
Deleteyes they were voted out by the founding corps do to differences so no rofl is not falling it was a moot dicision.
ReplyDeletebigger issue, why did ROFL only have 40 ships at the tournament final? HBC had 200. where is the fleet support Mitauchi promised? bunch of good FPS clans but the EVE side isnt holding up their side of the bargain. may need a new alliance leader..just sayin!
ReplyDeleteWhy bring 200 when apparently 40 was all that was needed?
Deletenice try. ROFL members ask yourselves. if you make up 70% of the alliance why is Mit the leader? shouldnt it be Stylie, Jlongshot or another Dust CEO? EVE forces not pulling their weight. Also, how often do u vote on an alliance leader or is Hitlerauchi the leader forever?
DeleteLOLZ but "The Mitauchi" is KING!!
Deletebut thanx for your input orin ;)
the alliance leadership is not static or permanent. shows how much u know
DeleteO Rly? so the million $ question is, when is the next alliance leader vote?
Deleteeverybody quiet now? so mit, you should know. when is the next alliance leader vote?
DeleteOh...was there a 200 man fleet in the hole that ROFL decided not to field? Because then your comment would make some sense instead of sounding like fleet capability damage control.
Deletestill waiting on when the next alliance leader vote is................Mit?
DeleteSo when Mit said he had to be the leader or he would disband the alliance, thats when the leadership wasn't static or permanent.
Delete^ this. mit knows he would get voted out! wake up rofl youre supposed to be the boots while Mit gives you fleet support. fleet support is shit, so why is he leader?
DeleteThe Only Good asset in ROFL is now not there. KEQQ doesn't have the ability to zerg like pro.
DeleteKeep buying Mit a Titan, ROFL is going to be a nonfactor
The tourney proved that ROFL can't support its ground troops.
I wonder if he still has people go around teamspeak, and ask for money so he can buy a new computer.
DeleteThis is some funny reading. Keep the good times coming. It is always interesting to hear what people think.
Delete40 man fleet that still got the fist OB off aye
ReplyDeleteit was a suicide OB tho, and they would have went isk negative if they wouldn't have gotten that lucky pod kill
Deletelucky pod kill that a pilot -ignored orders- from the FC for
DeleteThey were voted out. That's not jumping ship, that's pushed off the boat.
ReplyDeleteI heard PFB left because of talk about ROFL joining HBC.
Deletenegetive
DeletePFBHz said that to the few active leadership who were even paying attention(so none of them) that "If you ask us to leave we will leave."
DeleteHitlerauchie said yes so they left.
tldr version - j said "if u wasnt us to leave we will" tons of times. hitlerauchi finally said "ok we want you to leave." j said "we dont really want to leave" so it basically came down to 2 guys epeening and Mit calling his bluff.
DeleteMore Like Mit getting rid of the ONLY good dust corp in ROFL, LOL GG
DeleteWho cares. All good players in one clan means no competition. Game will die quiclly
ReplyDeletebought time we got sum more publicity lol
ReplyDeletehmmm, i heard the egos in pfb was wearing on the nerves of the leadership of rofl.....not that i have ANY idea about what goes on in there ;)
ReplyDeleteI heard ROFL was making stupid decisions and PFBHz could no longer stand the idiocy that is ROFL.... and left on their own accord.
ReplyDeletebasically
Deleteznig
Then you truly have no idea what you leaders are doing with your corp, znig.
Delete-fahrenheitM
So basically ROFL likes people that get kicked out of tournaments in the second round rather then the people who win it?
DeleteI'm thinking PHI's leadership should be questioned, how many players have left you guys now?
PHI's leadership is busy talking shit behind people's backs and being butthurt about not being the best corp in the alliance, like the group of tryhards they always were
DeleteTalking shit behind people's backs and being butthurt? lol? right?
DeleteI honestly don't care about any kind of imaginary pecking order. I'm not sure where the animosity comes from. I have friends in PFBHz and was sad to see you guys leave.
I'm not sure why we are tryhards? Because we actually give effort? PHI is not an elite clan, nor do we claim to be in any capacity. We're a group of friends that try to have fun and play together.
- fahrenheitM
people have left PHI because it's a small clan and sometimes they want bigger and better things and to "tryharder". It happens... Because we don't aspire to be the Imperfects or PFBHz with 100's or players? I don't get it, sometimes people will cook up anything just to talk...
DeletePHI requirement: be a hypocrite
Deletebonus points if you're a little bitch
Not really sure what you mean. I guess you can say what you want Fizzy... I always liked you.
Delete- fahrenheitM
I know, you loved me.
Delete*sigh*
DeleteI loved discord more, but he mad.
I'd still like to know more about my hypocrisy. I'm truly confused here.
Delete- fahrenheitm
Not mad. Why did the love stop?
DeleteBest news since I started playing Dust. I asked PFBHz leadership why we were in such a bad alliance from the start. I think this is about the best thing that could of happened to us. Now we will join a good alliance and dominate some biatchez! IMP, IE, and PFBHz 8)
ReplyDeleteznignflo72
LOLZ TOOLZ!!!
Deletewhats funny is that it was "i dont wanna associate with IMP's" a few months later its " I need me some more of that IMP Cock"
too funny!!!
lol znig wants jumps cockasaurus! news at eleven!!! lolololol
DeleteBeing a dominate alliance makes since to me... you guys sound mad? Maybe if you and whatever corp you're in had a little bit of skill you could do something similar.
Deleteznignflo72
will never happen as long as BHZ dead weight wants in. PFB the one with skilled players tbh.
Deletelulz! PFB leaves BHZ to join imps. news @ 11!!!!
Deletelol that will never happen, guess we'll be rolling mercs for hire for awhile
Deleteznigger 8)
zitro right, pfb we would take in a heartbeat. lolbhz notsomuch
Deletedont think bhz could meet the kdr requirement, we might waive it for 1 billion isk tho :)
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DeleteYou don't know who you're talking about, TBQH. Continue to try and pilfer Z though....we mock your efforts daily
Deletei see the purging has begun *smells desperation*
Deletejust remember, after you have impressed protoman you got to take her out somewhere nice. you always wine and dine b4 you 69.
the zitro boys will then start the hazing ritual on you all.
I already have a soul mate... <3 fizzehcandy <3
Deleteznig
wont work out, cant be a one cock man if you want in.
Deleteand all holes are mandatory!!!
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz126/znignflo72/createcard2_zpsab881a9e.jpg
Delete<3 soul mates <3
znig
PFBHz was not voted out. They offered to leave due to differences in philosophy, and their offers was accepted by our leadership. There was no official "vote". PFBHz has great guys in their clan. Many of our friends are PFBHz. We wish them nothing but the best.
ReplyDelete- fahrenheitM
Or it was Mit and 2 of his lackies that want PFBHz gone, how many of the leaders found out about this the next day.
DeleteGood luck without PFBHz to carry
What EVE players find funniest is this notion that any of you have done anything remotely important so far. Dust players have done exactly squat! Win a tourney? Take sov and then act important.
DeleteAt what point did anyone say anything about eve players?
DeleteYou're missing the point dust bunny. You are still gum on the bottom of our shoes. You talk about the imps and pink fluffy bunnies like they matter. Both the equivalent of being the biggest maggots in a pile of shit.
Deletewell, this is a DUST blog... apparently we matter enough for you to frequent it.
Deletei dont remember anyone in ROFL asking PFBHz for help or ISK have no idea where this carry thing comes from, hell you hardly have any pilots at all if thats the type of "carry" you talk about.
DeleteIf you guys join IMP that would be just plain stupid. Where would there be any good competition? It would be pub stomping every game. Game would get very old and boring fast. I wouldn't join them tbh. Jump is a whiny bitch anyway.
ReplyDeleteu do realize this game is also has business elements right? PFBHz may want to join IMP b/c on a business model, it is the most lucrative. Most EvE corps would take note of that Alliance even more so; so they'd have contracts up to waazoo. Good luck to whoever highers people to take their stuff; as better make sure the contract is large enough, as they'd be losing quite a bit of inventory
Deletenot really any EvE corp can throw their pennies and balls of lint at us dusters, if one of us gets the job done thats all thats required.
Deletefirst order of business is cut cost.
isnt 3C busy being the leet killerz in lolcrysis3? why you worried about dust?
ReplyDeleteTrust me. Not worried one bit about loldust. Just think the bunnies could do better on their own and not Join IMP. Trust me... the game won't be as fun with no talented competition.
ReplyDeleteyou way ahead of yourself comascrub, no one even said we would want to merge with PFB. do me a favor and worry about crysis.
Delete"The board will transition into my personal advisory council at this stage and will remain so for the life of their each of their corporations."
ReplyDeletePretty much sums up the problem right there.
Right.....dude seems to talk about himself quite a bit.
DeleteTranslation - You are all beneath me.
Who would ever want to be a part of that circus.
"In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secure society which I assure you will last for ten thousand years."
DeleteArticle is basically all Mit doing PR.
ReplyDeleteI heard that he talked to Two other leaders in the alliance and that was the "Vote" The other alliance leaders didn't even know about it till the next day.
Why is Mit ruining ROFL? He is a non factor EVE side and RISE2 are nonfactors dust side....
Look at all the publicity we are getting now.... I feel fabulous. Regardless of what happened and where we go the result will still be the same, all you no name corps will continue to dodge us anyway and if we did join imps that would just motivate you to dodge us even more. We have the forces of fizzycandy no one can overcome it
ReplyDeleteWhat does ROFL offer that other alliances cannot? 40 ships with days of advanced notice for the final battle in a DUST tournament? How many of those ships were from PFBHz anyways?
ReplyDeletePFBHz is a dust corp,
DeleteThey were fighting on the ground, the whole point of ROFL is to provide fleet,
STB had 100 man fleet along with another 100 man fleet of allies.
To me ROFL is a non factor in the EVE universe, and now they are also a non factor on the dust side because they lost there only competent corp.
kind of stupid tbqh, mag clans have dominated dust so far. any alliance with more than ten of them is going to be a player.
DeleteBut when the Mag clans in the alliance cant win a match against a competent opponent how will they effect anything? PFBHz wins tourney and is kicked from alliance. PHI gets should I say it ROFL stomped and doesn't make it past the 2nd round.
Deletethats not news. only person who didnt get clowned in the tourney was the bunnies and STB. So giant, syn all horribad too?
DeleteSyN lost to PFBHz no shame in that
Deletelolololol lost to STB too. tons of shame in that.
DeleteMost of the people in ROFL don't like most of the people in ROFL. Kind of the main issue here.
ReplyDeleteCorrection, Most of the people in ROFL could not stand the l33t attitude of PFBhz. Issue resolved.
DeleteAnd that is why other ROFL corps came to PFBHz to get "training"????
DeleteAll these anonymous opinions are rather interesting to rad. Glad so many put so much thought into us. :)
Deletesuper 1337 bro. Not hard to be the best in alliance when none of the other corps can throw a team together.
Deletenoooooooooooooo swagggggggggg
ReplyDeleteeveryone treats everyone like family in ROFL and have really strong bonds but we do not tolerate L33t attitudes
ReplyDeleteThere are (and were) some cool people in ROFL, people that we'd known since the early days of MAG, but the ROFL alliance as a whole is straight clowning. 40 ships to a tournament finals against some 300 enemy ships? Got lucky once, wouldn't have gotten lucky in the future. Those of us on the Dust side have built tournament winning teams and grown exponentially -- all while dealing with the shitty builds, bugs, and poor user interfaces of Dust514. What the fuck were they doing on the EVE side for the year plus that we've had this alliance set up?
ReplyDeleteHelping a fallen brother? Fuck right the fuck off. Nearly every single thread by a random ROFL nub in the ROFL forums had a PFBHz name there with offers of help, advice, guidance, even 1 on 1 or CB-style training. Who else in the alliance was even capable of doing so, not to mention actually active enough and willing to do so?
I would've left this all alone were it not for this hilariously pathetic attempt at spin, but the truth is that ROFL is running a kingdom and Mitauchi sees himself as the fucking Sun King, with corps below as nothing more than fiefdoms. Who's the elitist? Who were the ones bitching about PFB and BHz utilizing founding corp rights to veto new applicants to the alliance?
ROFL is a failboat and its home port is the kingdom of fail.
Two additional points:
Delete1. by "random ROFL nub", I meant, new to the game, not noob in general. :3 Like mentioned, still some friendlies in ROFL (condolences about your alliance leadership -- or lack thereof, however).
2. yes, I meant to post this under my real ID. No hiding behind anonymous here.
"utilizing founding corp rights to veto "every" new applicant to the alliance"
ReplyDeleteFixed
Hard to grow and give support when your leadership veto'd everyone, including more eve pilots.
The only one in here spinning is you guys. If we are so bad, and such a shitty alliance why are you on here complaining about not being in it. We dont claim to be perfect. Sure on the forums you would offer help and assitance. Some of us even took you up on it. But actions by some of your members and leadership itself showed the complete oppisite. You cant get anyone to fight you so you turned inwards and decided to rape and pillage members of your own alliance for the most part setting those groups back in player numbers.
Its sad that the best corp in the game were actually the ones holding us back from growing and becoming a larger alliance.
I wish nothing but the best for you guys. I will miss the tololol shit with J, Inhuman and Fizzy, many lol's had. I have nothing but respect for what you guys have created I just wish you could have shown more to the rest of the people that you were allied with.
-Murph
Well said Murph.
DeleteI like you murph, but when the new corps applying are BHD and RnD...
DeleteAnd taking in 5 man eve corps...
Bull-fucking-shit and you know it. I personally voted yes on no fewer than four corps. ONS, UPS (the germans), Deadly Blue Dots, and one other (could've been HAMPB).
DeleteNo one's complaining about being in it. I'm pointing out factual inaccuracies. You're full of shit and honestly I'm surprised you'd come out here now and talk this shit, when in the public ROFL boards you shitheads were always buddy-buddy. But then again that's exactly what you people do -- you play politics and talk shit behind other people while simultaneously running the biggest joke of an alliance that Dust514 has seen so far.
I'd give you a screenshot of the exultation that we've had in our site chat and forums that we're no longer in the alliance. Read my lips: PFBHz is better off for not being in this alliance.
Ok man,
DeleteI have had plenty of private conversations with J. on mulitple instances. And have always given my opinion with out bias.
When you were a leader we never got a chance to work together much which is way you are probably trying to shit all over me currently. It seems that your true feelings are being revealed here anyways, and from the sounds of it, it seems to be a great decision for both parties. So lets wrap up this shit show, and get the fuck on with our lifes instead of trying to continue to drag each other thru the mud which will not get anyone anywhere.
I look forward to having my ass handed to me by you guys in the future.
-Murph
My true feelings? I was neutral to just about everyone in ROFL that I didn't know personally up until now.
DeleteIt's not emotion, but fact, that I voted in plenty of corps when you and ROFL would have everyone believe that all we were doing was being obstructionists. And even then, as founding corps, both PFB and BHz were fully within their rights to veto every single applicant if we saw fit. It was in the alliance charter that all agreed to. So the fact that some of you people in ROFL try to use that as if it's a problem shows that you don't even understand the basics of how your own alliance charter works.
Good job, and good day.
Yes you did Autumn, I remember. You did leave your position though, and things did change after. No one is talking about your personal voting in the past. Just mentioning some of the issues. Murph was not at all wrong in what he had to say.
DeleteAlso no one is saying you guys went outside the rules at all. Just that it didn't always feel like it was helping. That is likely part of the differences in cultures.
Things change. It will be interesting to see what the future brings. Best of luck to you guys in your future efforts, and knowing New Eden we have no idea what time will bring.
^This song sums up basically everything
Delete"Hard to grow and give support when your leadership veto'd everyone, including more eve pilots"
DeleteThe eve pilots didnt even meet the requirements of the charter to apply...
The charter only matters when it lines up with what Dear Leader wants
Deletewhatever fuhrer Mit says is law followed by ROFL lemmings
Delete*Snooze*
ReplyDeletePlaying hard and clan controversy on the worst shooter
ever made...lol
lol...it appears internet spacesuits are also now super-cereal business.
ReplyDeleteThe main problem here is that for the average person involved, this all happened suddenly. This whole culture divergence that would, from Mitauchi's PR piece, appear to have been building for a while, was actually not something that we as a corp experienced amongst the many friends we have in ROFL; in the forums, in fleets, etc. So you can imagine that most people feel blindsided by those that acted one way to our faces, and spoke differently behind our backs.
The fact that this is now being aired out publicly on this ridiculous blog should not come as a surprise to anyone. Most people were completely cut off from the rest of the alliance before we could speak with anyone.
To ROFL: It was fun. I hope you soon have a fleet worthy of your ground numbers. I'll see you on the other end of the barrel. Don't forget your now exiled founders...as if we'd let you.
-Dis
PFBHz kept you guys from expanding? I tell you what, go ahead and grab BHD and RND, while youre at it go ahead and accept Psygod9 too. Let me know how that works out for you bro.
ReplyDeletedon't forget anonymous killers
DeleteA sad day, and a sad blog post. The unfortunate reality of a large alliance is that issues arise, and corporations join and leave over time. While I know many people with pfbhz and am fond of many of their members, sometimes issues arise that lead to separations. If there is anything I learned from years in MAG it is that over time, everything changes. To expect anything less is ridiculous. I am sure that I will be seeing you all in the skies and on the battlefield in the future, and I hope you'll all save some bullets for me. Good luck in your future adventures, until we meet again.
ReplyDelete0/
Madden
Less QQ Moar Pew Pew. Like I said on our forums; the vast majority of all this bullshit and drama happened in the closed echelons of leadership. 95% of ROFL's membership had no fucking clue what kind of relational status any corp held with each other other than what was told them by leadership. Considering the reactions of many of the "grunts" in our former allies' corps, it doesn't look like much was said. Bon Voyage, we'll see you in cold void.
ReplyDelete~Bloody
Well, I had hoped we could work though any issues, as I was enjoying my time with ROFL early on. It would appear that all the bonding in the world has no effect on some people.
ReplyDeleteSome of the people in ROFL, particularly some of the other corp leaders, I considered friends. I am sure you all know who you are. It really hurts to get stabbed in the back. I guess I can see how some of you feel we were just "turning in on you" and whatnot, and sure the massive amounts of trolling by some of our members didn't help.
But words are words, and the truth is, believe it or not, we figured going up against us (and it wasn't always our best teams, more that we tried to get people in who knew/wanted to fight their friends) was helping more than hurting. You don't learn anything by pubstomping/beating on noobs all day. You only learn by playing with/against people who exhibit skills greater than your own.
To Mit, I though I knew you man. I'm sure you don't give a flying shit about my opinion, not to mention anyone else in PFBHz (probably not anyone else anyway) and I don't think you are actually a bad person IRL. As a man to another man, I wish you and your family only the best. but as a player of video games, I feel you have a serious superiority complex. the fact that you're either rolling your eyes or otherwise disregarding that as you read it is evidence of that.
And to all the other ROFL members, If you feel like we are a bunch of elitists, I hope you can understand our side of the story. Certainly some of our members aren't exactly the most diplomatic people alive, but to assume our own PFBHz leadership, of which IMO are some of the most reasonable and diplomatic of the bunch, were trying to act as elitists, or even to say they were "holding ROFL back", is absolutely obsurd. We wanted ROFL to be.. the very best. like no one ever was.
I just hope that the group of true friends we have in ROFL don't share this hostility and ostracizing attitude that some other people in the Rise of Legion alliance clearly do.
Speaking ill and trash talking behind Anonymous names
is really stupid and pointless BTW. No matter who's doing it or what they are saying.
-Orin
Orin, it sucks to see you go man. Don't believe everything you hear said about how it all was. It sucks to think you feel stabbed in the back man. There are so many of you I hate to think I wont be hanging out with.
DeleteDon't believe it, even though it's true and we watched it happen.
DeleteWe were in TS when it happened
DeleteMit and two of his minions had a "vote"
Then ROFL lost us
--slap26
Props to Orin for honest and balanced, no holds barred, anti-internet tough guy realism...and for pretty much nailing how I feel as well. I told myself it was beneath me to post here...but his post motivated me to.
DeleteThis went down on my birthday, so I was out at dinner with friends when this bomb dropped. It wasn't until the next morning that I got to view the carnage. Do I think some of the steps taken were excessive? YEAH, I do. At the same time some of the stuff said afterwards have put things in the point-of-no-return area. The tongue is a smoldering flame.
Still, I have friends and people I respect in PFBHz and will continue to. But some of you contributed to this with words and behavior that was beneath you. Now i'm hearing that on more than two occasions (one which I witnessed myself in squad) "trolling" descended into racial slurs in fleet comms? REALLY? That doesnt have a place in any serious organization. Doubt me? Try explaining to Shaka Zulu or Los how funny stuff like that is. Better yet explain to me how I can in good conscience bring players from different cultures to a group where stuff like that is going on?
But of course, this is the internet right? Where everything is lulzy and no one can limit what I want to say because there aren't any consequences, right?
WRONG.
Sometimes freedom is disguised as chaos. At some point it becomes a character issue and some things can't be said or done because they're wrong. In the same vein some of the verbal stuff should have been the first sign that some people were taking things too far and needed to be reined in.
Like Orin, I also dont do the "sour grapes" I never liked you anyway thing. What am I? Twelve? To me thats just silly. But no Orin, I dont share the hostility and ostracizing attitude that some have towards those involved. Those who do? you probably forgot ITS A GODDAMN VIDEO GAME. Still, like I told Dis and J in chat--I feel like an opportunity was missed here.
In closing i'll wish the best of luck to all parties involved. No one is without fault here, as mistakes were made on both sides. As corny as this blog is, some of the comments made me think. Going forward its partly my responsibility to make sure nothing like this can ever happen again while I remain a member of ROFL.
Good Day Gentlemen.
p.s. posting anonymous...seriously?
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Deletesomeone always goes too far!!!
DeleteI've heard worse. Never fails to surprise me how the anonymity of the internet is so empowering to some people.
DeleteNo doubt some troll with no association to either group trying to stir the pot.
I'll continue to take the high road and keep it classy because its my nature, but when there isn't a basic level of respect there are bound to be problems. My 17 year old nephew is gaming with me now and as an adult there are some things I wont subject him to. I dont expect anyone to be nuns or totally PC in chat or squad, but some things are just way out of line.
BTW, Now that we are no longer a part of ROFL, we are allowed to spill the beans:
ReplyDeleteDusters blog is affiliated with ROFL!
trollface.jpg
thats fuckin great!!! *standing applause*
DeleteI've personally never had any bad experience with any PFBHz member. Wish them all the best, since this is just a video game. To those "winning Eve claims", you're fucking delusioned, and should fap away in your basement caves in silence. ROFL had (including PFBHz) 300 EVE characters, now 275. If a fleet of 40 is not reasonable for our size, you're dumb. And the trolls that post as Anonymous don't be a coward, and ID yourself... pussies.
ReplyDeleteKhellendrosX
<3 Khell <3
DeletePFBHz used to be in a position of power in an alliance. They will never be in a position like that again if they join a large, established entity in the EVE universe. They'll either have to start their own DUST alliance, or be the bitch of another EVE alliance.
ReplyDeleteThe choice is yours, PFBHz.
Only two options in all of New Eden. Clearly noob
DeleteEndless possibilities await, unless of course the Blinding Pacifist Sickness consumes us all.
ReplyDelete~Bloody
I guess ROFL doesn't want classy diplomacy such as this when it comes to recruiting:
ReplyDeletehttp://pastebin.com/UakFdrE9
Would you like to know more?
Deletemad?
DeleteThat was months worth of frustration built up from us constantly making ourselves available to battle, train, practice, scrim -- whatever you want to call it, only to constantly have the same people making the same excuses over and over. Then you worthless fucks go and lose CBs to nobodies while dodging all offers of practice and scrims, what do you expect?
DeleteDid you expect PFB to be here and spend all this time in an alliance that aren't actively looking to improve? Of all the months of time in which we've made ourselves available to practice and scrim, the amount of times someone in the alliance took us up on the offer can be counted on one hand. You should be mad. You should be mad, because the reason you got called out like that in the chat was because you're all full of excuses and completely uninterested in actually improving in meaningful ways.
Instead you're all caught up on why we won't let your best buddies BHD in, and whenever someone makes a joke about your mother, then going back to your TS server to gossip.
Keep posting out-of-context, cut-off chat logs under an anonymous username. Perfect example of the excuse-ridden, spineless, worthless attitude that a majority of people in ROFL have.
Nice Photoshop...
Delete@Autumn:
DeleteIt's kind of funny how it's PFBHz that's airing butthurt, rage, and trashtalk in the comment section, isn't it? And you really don't want to bring up the ROFL alliance charter, because I know someone that can list *multiple* infractions committed by PFBHz against that charter as well as alliance comms violations, but he is staying quiet to let this stuff blow over.
Spin the situation in your favor all you want. Both parties are better off now.
You make the mistake of thinking we give two shits about ROFL. These comments are entertaining, keep them coming. Continue calling yourselves "the first successful EVE/DUST alliance" when the only "success" you've ever had is now not even linked to you.
DeleteSorry, I should stop saying ROFL when it was just a handful of insufferable cunts who are driving the alliance into the ground.
Delete@fizzy:
DeleteYes, and those insufferable cunts have finally been purged from ROFL.
So how did your leadership meeting go when all the other leaders finally found out what happened?
DeleteDidn't know that winning a tourney which provided some decent exposure was "driving into the ground" :3
Delete~Bloody
Also, to hit on what Autumn said about avoidance: I respect those corps who showed up for scrims, CBs, etc. rather than pussyfooting around. For those of you who upgraded your Corp Battle Dodging to level 5, good luck. For fuck's sake, there is no "rep" to lose when you are facing your alliance mates, man up and try to work on your teamwork, tactics, and skill. I won't bother to elaborate, but I've witnessed it firsthand, where some of you were so paranoid about losing to PFBHz you refused to CB, or bailed out midmatch if something went wrong and left your buddies to die.
DeleteOnce again, respect to those who tried, no matter the odds we put against you, and good luck to the friends who still fly the ROFL banner. May you have better fortunes than your blinded compatriots.
~Bloody
Well said Autumn,
ReplyDeleteI personally offered to help with ROFL's tankers, not a single person besides VD ever took me up on the offer. I feel for the members of PFBHz who put 2 years into building ROFL. Only to have there hard work and dedication taken away by shady backdoor dealings.
And ROFL leadership don't post anonymous when you try to cloud the publics opinion of PFBHz with edited chat logs. It makes you look like a coward
We are a strong corporation and we will stay a strong corporation
---slap26
How long has DUST 514 been in beta now? Let's see, less than a year. Now, how big of a presence did PFB, BHz, and PFBHz present during the rest of the time? Oh yeah, that's right- nothing but forum banter. Oh sure, you had a minimal presence on the EVE side, but that's what it was... minimal. Don't make it sound like you've done all the work in getting this alliance off the ground, because it's definitely not the case.
DeleteAnd who were the founding corps of this alliance? Let's see, BHz(started on their forums), V-C, PFB, and KEQ. Now what kind of presence did BHz and PFB promise? DUST presence, and that's exactly what we brought. Oh sure, NMD. has a minimal presence EVE side, but that's what it was.. minimal. Don't make it sound like this alliance ever get off the ground, because it's definitely not the case.
Deletelol @ fizzy
DeleteI like how your response was Anonymous, hence you are a coward
DeletePFBHz can now move to greener pastures without all the ROFL baggage.
--slap26
Keep posting anonymously, you're chicken shit and if you post using your real name, we'll all know you're horse shit too.
DeleteI actually tried, repeatedly to get in touch with you slap... to no avail... play times differed or you were busy... :(
Delete- fahrenheitm
Deletewell rofl is fucked on dust side now. lost the best corp they had in the alliance. eve side rofl is a joke and now dust side theyll be a joke also.
ReplyDeleteFleet up sometime and I'll be happy to explode your spaceship, you Anonymous coward. :)
DeleteLadies and Gents, as a long-time EvE player, and in various leadership roles (including running an alliance)...people are hard. They will have different views, different opinions, different levels of what is and is not appropriate. Sometimes groups split. It happens. I have friends all over EvE who still say hi after we do our damnedest to blow each other apart. Everyone stop with the goddam trolling and act like you're older than 12.
So I wish those in PFBHz good hunting, I hope you learned something from the EvE side of things (or at least had fun) when in fleet, and we'll see you around...on the ground and in the skies.
- GG [HAMPB]
I will very much miss BTAs! Thanks for the fleets GG.
DeletePersonally, I see this as a good thing on our side since we're basically free agents now. We can now do what we want without having to listen to a dictator.
ReplyDeleteROFL had to many rules and to many guidelines to follow. You can't do this or that and so on. Don't get me wrong, ROFL has some great players that are fun to play with but the leader of the alliance is just so restricting.
*sigh * Why is all of this necessary? Why can't we just let this die and move on? I was unaware of what happened until it happened, but some of you are lashing out at the ENTIRETY of ROFL. That is not called for because I am friends with alot of you and was personally sad to see you go. Still not aware of the details but fact remains fact..PFBHz is gone and like it or not, we all have to move on. The simplistic approach is to just all walk away and hold onto whatever semblance of a friendship/mutual respect that we can WHILE we can.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Notice how this blog post isn't a statement from us? :)
DeleteLike I explained in my first post here, I wouldn't have said a thing were it not for this pathetic excuse for a PR spin post that Mitauchi felt necessary to put out. No one from PFBHz felt the need to stroke their egos by making a huge public announcement of it, why is it that ROFL's dear leader needed to? Furthermore, why is it that once ROFL's dear leader opened his dog ass of a mouth, all the ROFL shit eaters felt the need to come crawling out and post garbage under anonymous IDs?
DeleteAsk yourself that before you wonder why there's no respect here for ROFL.
Respect is earned, not given. Not many in ROFL ever earned my respect, and the way this entire thing has gone down -- including the various pussy-shit 'Anonymous' posts -- has sufficed to lose my respect entirely. Sorry to those of you that are genuinely not interested in adding fuel to the fire, but that's how it is.
Yes respect is earned but you can still handle this with maturity and not stoop to name calling. The people that do it look immature.
DeleteA lot of people are saddened by what happened. I had some good games with you guys in PFBHz, I hope from here we can go forward without destroying was bonds were made and continue to battle each other on the battlefield. I wish your corporation luck with its future.
It's not quite name-calling if it's true, hmm?
DeleteIt is still name calling if it is true. I will take myself as an example I am short so someone can call me short shit etc it is name calling even though it is true. There are more mature ways to go about this without going to that level.
Deletewhat a douchebag
Deletethis whole blog post is sad.
ReplyDeleteFizzy, slap, dis, jslice, gator mator, jizho, lunch, seraph, Orin (<3) and any other PFBHz that is watching.. the past (almost) year getting to know you guys has been one of the most rewarding I've ever had in gaming. You've kept us on our toes, you've trolled us silly and you've made us laugh until our sides were splitting. It saddens me so to see such a unique group of fabulous people gone from our wonderful alliance and I miss our late talks, our owning people on the battlefield and the "I'm not JLongshot"'s already.
That being said, you are so unique. You know this. Some point down the road your uniqueness and philosophies didn't mesh with some people and ideals within the alliance and that doesn't make it wrong, or bad. It just made things different. I wish you guys the absolute best and look forward to running into you as a red or blue dot. Hell, I'm pretty sure I have a lot of you on facebook, so we'll be in touch! You will always have my friendship. It truly has been a pleasure having met you.
XOXO
VD7
Very well said mademoiselle.
DeleteMost of the clans in ROFL were never good in MAG, and will never be good in Dust. Nothing has changed between the two games. Most of the bad ROFL clans are the ones that take this shit super cereal. They can continue to sit in their static alliance and accomplish nothing but drama.
ReplyDeleteznignflo72
Trollfest 2013.... Everyone with their uneducated, biased, not worth two shits opinion, should post here.
ReplyDeleteIF I MAY MAKE ONE QUICK POINT, THAT I DONT THINK HAS BEEN MENTIONED. PEOPLE GOT MAD BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE, AND THAT THEY TROLL THE SHIT OUT OF THEM. ISNT THAT WHAT EVE IS ALL ABOUT? EVE IS THE MOST UNFORGIVING GAME OUT THERE, PEOPLE DEVOTE THOUSANDS OF HOURS JUST TO FUCKING WITH PEOPLE. BY DOING THIS, ROFL HAS OFFICIALLY PLANTED THE FLAG OF "CARE BEAR". OH AND IN CASE PEOPLE CANNOT SEE WHAT THIS WAS REALLY ABOUT, THIS IS WAS A PLOY TO GET BHD AND RND INTO ROFL, WHICH IS BLASPHEMY FROM OUR STANDPOINT.
ReplyDeletePOSTED PAINSTAKINGLY BY ME- C Y S Q U A T C H 9
Idiot. You can play both of these games without being a trolling asshat. How's puberty coming?
DeleteBHD and RND
DeleteI take it from PFBHz standpoint that these 2 clans would bring in more average to sup par players thus dumbing down the overall playerbase of ROLF and making them weaker as a whole?
Isn't there gay shit like mining to do, you could have BHD and RND do that, I'm sure they would understand.
DeleteCYSQUATCH is only mad because phoenix archer declined his overly aggressive advances.
DeleteLet BHD in!
Have you seen a pic of PA? Sooooooooooooo Hot
DeleteHer mustache and sideburns make me want to sexually asphyixiate myself.
DeleteAhhh.
How's hiding behind Anonymous like a bitch?
ReplyDeleteznignflo72
BHD would make an outstanding addition to any corporation.
ReplyDeleteYours sincerely,
Aaron1664
I heard CYSQUATCH was kicked from BHD for stalking plymco_pilgrim and sending illicit images of himself to nitroz?
DeleteCould anybody confirm or deny this?
Completely true, I still have my pics of Cy that nirtoz shared with me... I use them frequently
DeleteThe picture of him using his penis to spread butter was the particular highlight imho.
DeleteSo how many other corps are going to bail from ROFL now that the PFB was booted?
ReplyDeleteor is this causing ROFL to solidify?
I'm just curious of the ultimate fallout of all this will be.
We shall see. I predict either a little of both, or just a bland return to the status quo.
Delete~Bloody
Well if they are replaced with BHD and RND they will be even stronger.
Deleteif you call that becoming stronger then lolz at you, RND is already in another alliance
DeleteOk but BHD are a sold addition at least. Adds a much needed touch of class.
DeleteBHD would neither hurt or help the alliance... alliance full of nonfactors
Deletebull fucking shit, BHD were one of the top 10 clans in mag, nobody would face them in dom even though they put out an open challenge. This has continued into dust where they will make a big impact on the fortunes of rofl.
DeleteGG.
How can you face someone in Dom, no one could field 128vs128? They refused to play 32v32 against almost every clan. They were no where near the top and would have been raped in any clan battle against a decent clan.
Deleteznignflo72
No you would have to find us, you knew where we were but nobody dared.
DeleteUndefeated in clan battles. GG.
[)B(] wishes the PFBz nothing but good luck and good fortune in all their future endeavors.
ReplyDeleteI loved playing along side you guys and look forward to seeing you on the field.
-DMH
Sounds like PFB are against playing in the same clan as RND after the devestating fued they shared on MAG. They need to put the past behind them and work together to create a loving atmosphere to allow CYSQYUATCH's and ydubbs relationship to blossom. Think of what you could of achieved, the love you could of shared.
ReplyDeleteA real shame.
PFBhz KEQ RND BHD all in one clan? It was just too good to be true. ROLF will never be the same again.
ROLF isn't worth talking about with or without pfbiatches.
ReplyDeleteAll their members are scared on facing up to Unreal.
--eclipse--
Or is Unreal's corp battle dodging ability still maxed????
DeletePFBHz has been trying to get a fight for a while now an still nothing....
---slap26
There's way too much useless vitriol being spewed in the comment section of this blog post.
ReplyDeleteBest of luck to your future conquests, PFBHz. I can't wait to see what kind of influence you'll have on the star map of New Eden when the full EVE/DUST interaction is finally live.
-Alastanir
Cant wait to watch ROFL get smashed by actual sov holding entities, ROFL is nothing in EVE
DeleteWHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK I AM MAD?
ReplyDeleteI CAN CONFIRM I WAS BOOTED FROM BHD FOR SENDING ILLICIT IMAGES TO NITROZ. I THOUGHT HE WAS DOWN WITH IT AFTER I SAW HIM T-BAGGING JUMPMAN LIKE A PRO.
I CAN ALSO CONFIRM THAT "I DID HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH PLYMCO PILGRIM". I LIKE SPREADING BUTTER WITH MY PENIS, AND HE LIKED IT ON HIS FOREHEAD; IT WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED.
AS FAR AS PUBERTY GOES, ITS GOOD, JUST GOTTA GET RID OF THIS BACKNE.
ANY FURTHER INQUIRIES INTO MY PERSONAL LIFE, PLEASE CONTACT AARON1664-AKA WALRUS DICK.
POSTED PAINSTAKINGLY BY ME- C Y S Q U A T C H 9
I am fucking hung like a walrus.
DeletePeace, Aaron1664.
I like how Mitauchi handles his business.
ReplyDelete-Dictator Obama Communist
You know all of this negative RND propaganda is sort of funny. I'm reading that RND would or would have made ROFL a weaker alliance if RND was a member. And that is really humorous to me....
ReplyDeleteI mean, seriously, all jokes aside...out of curiosity, which corp(s) would you guys rather have than RND (that isn't already aligned)???
BHD
DeleteWish I could of done something. :( <----All I got say.
ReplyDeleteI wish a could of done something. :( <----All I got say.
ReplyDelete